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Friday, March 29, 2013
The meanings of the meaning of life
by Massimo Pigliucci
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Living in the dark or the light.
ReplyDeleteThe scientific answer as is all of science is uncertainty which leads to only more questions at best.
And the religious answer is ye must have faith.
Faith and uncertainty is a doubtfully Way to live.
The purpose or meaning of life is just living.
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Causal questions to which scientific theories about the origins of the cosmos and evolutionary theory propose answers are, I agree, very important in helping us come to plausible views about the character of the world. But simple observation of the natural world can also tell us a lot about the character of the world (and also about the nature of any hypothetical maker). The basic facts of living things and how they survive (the spider's web and a thousand other familiar but, from a human point of view, nightmarish examples) is very difficult (impossible?) to reconcile with an all-powerful, benevolent creator. Evolutionary theory obviously takes us to a deeper level of understanding of what we pre-theoretically observe.
ReplyDeleteIt's a mark of the power of religious belief-systems that they have been able to get people to ignore or impose far-fetched interpretations on what is in plain view. Think of those medieval bestiaries, for instance, full of absurd moralized tales of the natural world.
I don't really understand the need most people seem to have to find purpose or meaning in their existence.
ReplyDeleteFrom a non-religious point of view, I don't see why we should suspect there is any purpose at all, or at least any objectively correct answer to the question.
It seems to me that purpose is only a matter of personal preference. Philosophy and introspection might help you to identify what you specifically want out of life, but they will not provide general answers.
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ReplyDeleteI think a better framework for understanding "our existential quandary" than that offered by Pawlak and Joll can be derived by taking seriously Camus's (brilliant and profound) question, which for convenience might be stated as "Why live?
ReplyDeleteThere are really two reasons that Camus' question is philosophically first or most basic: 1) it establishes whether philosophical inquiry is worthwhile; if one has no reason to live, one also has no reason to philosophize; (How could we have a reason to philosophize yet no reason to live?); presumably, philosophy is worthwhile if and only if life is worthwhile; 2) Given that a reason to live is found, the governing value of one's subsequent philosophizing is established.
Now the question of whether there is a reason to live just is the question of what the meaning of life is. That is, one's answer to the question "Why live?" and one's answer to the question "What is the meaning of life?" are the same. Importantly these questions can be pitched at both the level of humankind and the individual level. When one asks why live or what the meaning life is one could mean this with regard to humanity generally or only with regard to oneself. Note that one who believes that she has no reason to live could hold this either because she believes humans generally have no reason to live or because she believes only she has no reason to live.
Related questions, such as the purpose of life and the cause of life, are not additional questions but questions within the question of why live or life's meaning; that is, they are questions one encounters in trying to answer the question of what the meaning. In particular, the question of whether life has a meaning may lead one to the question of whether life has a purpose; if life has a purpose that's a possible meaning.
Now the question of purpose is something that may be considered on three levels: metaphysical purpose, i.e. reality is made with a purpose for humans built in, e.g. glorifying God; naturalistic human purpose, e.g. to carry on the generations; individual purpose, e.g. to create a great work of art.
These questions lead to the question of "the cause of life," which I think is better stated as that of the nature of reality, or how humans came to be. Is reality such that there is a metaphysical or naturalistic purpose to human life?
Now the question of whether purpose or cause is seen as prior to the other depends on how one answers the question of cause: if one believes reality was created for a purpose, with a purpose for humans in ming, then purpose precedes cause; that is, the answer to the question of why we are here makes reference to a purpose; if one believes reality was not made with a purpose, then our thinking about purpose will be posterior to our understanding of reality.
A further point, one that I find very interesting, is that purpose does not entail meaning; that is, one could identify a purpose for life, even a divine one, but not feel it makes life worth living. This means that purpose does not explain what meaning is; purposes may or may not be meaningful. A further angle on this is that purpose may not be necessary to meaning. (Continued below.)
Paul, that's a damn skippy take on Camus. Dang you for beating me to it! I especially agree, it would appear tangentially (at least) contra Massimo, that "purpose" is NOT a *necessary* answer. In fact, I think that, to insist that purpose is, runs close to ... moralizing.
DeleteAt the same time, per modern cognitive science and the idea of subselves, I would disagree that one always knows why one is asking particular questions. Even a deep philosophical question may be driving by some semiconscious subself, or at least a "splinter." (I don't want to sound like I'm going down the road of repressed memory, or something.)
But, back to Camus. What if alienation is that ingrained into modern life, unless one does in actuality what a Thoreau only wrote about?
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And, @Neil, death is not a "state of experience." It is a nonexperience, because there's no I after I'm dead. (And, Camus was not an "existentialist." He was an "absurdist" and regularly made clear he did not consider himself an "existentialist."
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That said, in my opinion, Massimo fails to sufficiently distinguish the monotheistic multi-omni god of Judeo-Islamo-Christian tradition from many other possibilities, not just the ones we know are religiously confessed here on earth, but all the logical possibilities. For example, Mormons believe that god and H. sapiens both continue to evolve. Therefore, a god need not be "omni" but can still, contra Robert Schenck, transcend Arthur C. Clarke's potential "box."
Thanks Gadfly. Love the accolade, "damn skippy." I think that's the way Bing Crosby described doing his duet with Grace Kelly.
DeleteRegarding knowing or not knowing what one is doing in philosophizing, I grant that we might often follow curiosities and fascinations that one's not sure the origin of. What I meant by *not knowing* what one is doing in philosophizing was more doing philosophy without a personal sense of why the issue in question is an issue, i.e. such that the question has no known relation to one's own values. This can happen in academia, at all levels (students, teachers), and perhaps culture generally. People get enmeshed in philosophical issues without asking critically why they care.
My view is that philosophy is far more value-driven than science. With philosophy, the question of what philosophy should be worried about is itself a philosophical question, and there's latitude for each philosopher to set their own program. For this reason, when philosophy is presented as if it were like a science that had some agenda dictated by some impersonal reality, one can be sure that one is being recruited into some else's answer to the "What should philosophy be doing?" question.
So, anyway, it's okay if one doesn't know why various specific questions arise for one so long as one has a sense of the general values that govern one's philosophizing.
(Continuation) Anyway, so the basic question is why live?, which just is the question of what the meaning of life is. Purpose is one possible answer but perhaps not a necessary one. Either way one goes, one is led into the question of the nature of reality. In this way, Camus's question opens up to a way of doing philosophy that has integrity; philosophizing is centered on a central value and one always knows why one is asking the questions one is asking.
ReplyDeleteOn this point, a risk of professionalized philosophy is becoming alienated from the deeper question of why one is doing philosophy; if a person is philosophizing only because it's a job and one has been set a task and one is worried about building up one's 401k then that philosophizing has possibly become unhinged from personal meaning and hence possibly personal and social value. This would raise the question of what values are in fact governing philosophy. A philosopher must know the answer this question, which is why Camus's question is so excellent.
Disagreeable Me,
A constant risk in life is becoming alienated from or confused about one's life directing values. Question of meaning, i.e., questions of central value, arise when this happens.
DeleteThe question, "Why live?", does not seem to have the same existential meaning as "Why not commit suicide?" which I believe is a better rendition of Camus intent in The Myth of Sisyphus. The question, "Why live?" seems meaningless. We are alive and while we are alive our questioning of this state is of no effect whatever; whereas, "Why not commit suicide?" is a question directed towards some future action or inaction.
Neil,
DeleteInteresting. To me the question "Why live?"seems equivalent to the question "Why not commit suicide?" The result of committing suicide is being dead, i.e., not living. Thus the question "Why not commit suicide?" is effectively equivalent to the question "Why not not live?," which by double negation elimination yields, "Why live?" I'm being a bit facetious, but I don't hear the difference you do. Will think about it.
I agree with Neil. I can say that the question 'Why not commit suicice' never crossed my mind. I believe we have a fundamental curiosity to make some sense of the world so that we can navigate it safely making choices of what to avoid and what to approach.
DeleteThis curiosity can lead to many questions and in our attempts to resolve those questions we create our own meaning. So I agree with Massimo in that respect. Science can inform the question of why we are curious and I think philosophy can help us decide how to apply our curiosity.
Paul,
DeleteYou are correct if one applies binary logic and assumes ‘life’ and ‘death’ as polar opposites. One may however collapse this opposition. ‘Life’ is all we can experience and all of our thinking, including the posing of questions, must arise from this state. ‘Death’ as a realm of experience is completely unknown and unknowable. Any description of the concept of death from an experiential perspective must be speculative and, to my mind, may not be put in opposition to and from the existential realm of ‘life’.
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ReplyDeleteWhat is the meaning of life? Charles Sanders Peirce, Jean-Paul Sartre, and Richard Rorty walk into a bar, have some beers, and leave.
ReplyDeleteIsn't the simulation hypothesis just a special case of the supernatural explanation, i.e. deism for geeks a la Clarke's Third Law and corrolaries ("Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from a deity")?
ReplyDeleteThis is clearly a difficult issue that needs to be thought about. However no one has time to think about it, so we need some robot-philosophers to spend all their time thinking about it. They can get into debate with the robo-monks in their down-time.
ReplyDeleteOh well, to paraphrase Marcus Aurelius, "Life is terrible, but it isn't serious".
Dear all, and especially Paul M. Paolini
ReplyDeleteIt might be worth mentioning that *Philosophy and The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy* has a chapter that treats Camus. That chapter is chapter 3. It's called 'Life, the Universe, and Absurdity', and is by Amy Kind.
As to simulation, one might see the chapter (in the same book) by Barry Dainton.
Scientists are still updating their theories, even with all the modern technology. The message of the Bible has stayed the same for thousands of years. With only the physical realm and chance you have chaos. Many people say they do not have the time to think about the meaning of life, but it is likely in the back of their mind at some point.
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