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Tuesday, November 13, 2012
A better way to do “studies,” perhaps
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Well put, Massimo.
ReplyDeleteI'm curious - are these xxx studies something American? I couldn't find 'women studies' in the dictionary, and I always thought philosophy of science and science studies were the same thing. (Where does Popper's falsification criterion belong?)
ReplyDeleteGood question. This may indeed be an American phenomenon. Anyone else from outside the US?
DeleteI don't think that it is a -purely- American phenomenon. "Media Studies" is a common whipping boy in the UK, so there must be at least -some- actual programs. Additionally, a quick glance at the programs at the University of Amsterdam indicates degree programs in "European Studies", "Media and Culture", and "Future Planet Studies".
DeleteThere is another reason to situate 'studies' courses within traditional departments: to do otherwise is to shortchange students, because one cannot truly engage in 'interdisciplinary' study unless one has already mastered at least one of the disciplines involved.
Well, Europe is hardly a minority, so not sure 'European Studies' fit the mold, nor do the other examples. ;-)
DeleteMy guess would be that they do exist in (continental) Europe, but since they are part of the traditional departments I just never noticed them as something separate. Also, IMO language matters a lot here - in German, the word 'Wissenschaften' has a much broader meaning than the corresponding term(s) in English. It translates to 'science', but it actually means scientia, and it also covers the term 'studies'.
Leaving aside the terminology, I very much agree with the OP here. True interdisciplinarity can only be achieved if you understand all of the subjects in involved - like in your own case for Biology and Philosophy. You can cut back on the detail studies in the name of effiency only to a certain degree, and setting up the studies as a separate entity practically guarantee that that line will be crossed sooner or later. (This is politics, after all.) Anchoring it in a traditional department at least gives the topic a fighting chance.
Cheers
Chris
(P.S. At the risk of sounding chauvinistic, I can't imagine why anybody would even WANT to study 'women studies' as a separate discipline. Fortunately, my wife can't either ;-) )
I think the issue is one of 'area' studies, rather than anything to do with any supposed "minority". A common (and not new) area in the US is "American Studies", and 'American' would not normally be considered 'minority' in the US.
DeleteFirst, NOBODY says "women studies" but "gender studies" here in our enlightened Europe. It seems to be one of their most important and widespread ideas ever...
ReplyDeleteHere in Finland there is actually right now a sort of academic gender war, as one department in Swedish-speaking minority university is losing its public resources. Gender studies are, still, doing very fine and intervening in much everywhere...
Many of these studies are much interconnected. Eg. gender and
immigration use same post-theories, shared methodologies, similar dislike of 'hard' social sciences etc. What about putting them all into a same department... They share their normatively determined Manichean results often as well!
My background is in the visual arts and have had no formal instruction in philosophy but patron saints like Derrida and Foulcault came up too often in my undergraduate and graduate programs. Because of this I have to agree with you in the need for a restructuring.
ReplyDeleteWhat I have noticed in the arts is the type of isolation that you described in academia. Here's a straw man of what I see. If you are a woman; create, write, comment about women's issues and the evils of privileged white males. If you are hispanic; create, write, comment about latino issues and the evils of privileged white males and their colonizing ways. Now follow this type of segregation down the line to each group that would have their own studies section. Then I realized that the only people that are allowed to explored interesting subjects in art, such as the sciences, are the privileged heterosexual white males. Everyone else stick to your kind.
Post Mod has had too much influence and from what I see achieved the opposite than it's goal of pluralization, But then again I may just be too bitter and over exposed to it. Can anyone recommend good literature responding to post-modernism that does not dismiss it of hand but takes it to task on its fallacies and short comings.
thanks
I think it is difficult to find works that deal with postmodern ideas evenhandedly because there is so much harsh criticism on the matter, that anyone with sympathies towards postmodern ideas feels it necessary to spend more time playing defense than offense.
DeleteI will really never understand how people talk about Foucault and Derrida in the same breath so very often. One of them had complex ideas that he backed up well. The other wrote in an obfuscating fashion about nothing in particular. I do not know that you can come to find any good analysis of postmodern thought if you do not believe there is a difference between the two.
Sorry everyone, but I'm traveling at the moment, so I'll be able to check in with the discussion only from time to time.
ReplyDeleteMassimo, I agree with the idea that the "X Studies" system can tend to become an intellectual circle jerk.
ReplyDeletePlus, to use the most common ones here in the US, what if African-American/Latino/woman/gay-lesbian "Person X" has some dirty laundry? How narrowly does the relevant "X Studies" department circle the wagons?
Hi there Professor Pigliucci!
ReplyDeleteI've been thinking about this since our last class, (I'm in the grad level seminar about philosophy of science and science studies) and I'm not sure that I agree with you completely about housing the departments within larger, classical departments.
On the one hand, you're right: students outside of the group being studied would be more likely to take a class studying that group if it were so, and there would be better professorial resources able to be devoted to the field.
Yet if these departments are truly interdisciplinary, (mind you, I have little experience with them as well, I'm coming from a theoretical level here ;) ) then they'd be forced to conform to the methodologies of that department, thus losing perhaps a majority of their research arms.
For example, a women's studies project might attempt to go to the heart of what exactly it means to be a human being. Bear with me, I know that sounds lofty. Look at it this way, though. Gender and sexuality touches on almost every way we go about our lives: it colors what we wear, how we present ourselves, what we find it appropriate to talk about, our relationships with others, our beliefs, our desires, our dreams, our work and home lives. Even more basically (and something dear to contemporary philosophers), it is intimately tied into human motivation and identity. How can you anchor all of that to, say, an English department?
I guess I think that there should be "X studies" courses *within* departments, so that you can have real scholarship about specific and narrow topics from a diverse perspective. But *also* a wider home base for a scholar who needs a wider berth. If it isn't their own department, where is it going to be?
The only answer can be, of course, the philosophy department. ;)
-Ericka
Ericka,
DeleteIndeed, that's exactly the trade off, and I don't have a perfect solution (though of course I quite like e idea that philosophy departments are, or ought to be, interdisciplinary by nature). I am just concerned about the insularity of some studies programs, and particularly by their sometimes unreasonable skepticism of science. Perhaps a hybrid approach along the lines you suggest would be the best compromise.