tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15005476.post3286528989751201362..comments2023-10-10T08:02:18.073-04:00Comments on Rationally Speaking: Intelligent Design is (a form of) creationismUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15005476.post-52977234624029444462007-12-18T16:56:00.000-05:002007-12-18T16:56:00.000-05:00Peter,Your objection is well-taken. Thank you for...Peter,<BR/><BR/>Your objection is well-taken. Thank you for the correction. <BR/><BR/>I should rather have written: "...please note that IDers do not regard a deity as a logicall neccessity. Many IDers hypothesize aliens as the creative agency. this however, only moves the problem of abiogenesis, or deity, to another planet."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15005476.post-21836814682351642952007-12-14T18:44:00.000-05:002007-12-14T18:44:00.000-05:00thumpalumpacus,You are completely wrong. The basi...thumpalumpacus,<BR/><BR/>You are completely wrong. The basic premise of intelligent design is that life is too complex to have arisen via natural, undirected processes.<BR/><BR/>Logically, therefore, the same must apply to any other life that may exist elsewhere in the universe.<BR/><BR/>So, if one postulates an alien as the designer of life on our planet, this merely places the supernatural entity at one remove from us.<BR/><BR/>I also have heard such claims from IDiots but this is just another of their disingenuous attempts to disguise the religious nature of their claims.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15005476.post-78441838991617036382007-12-13T11:32:00.000-05:002007-12-13T11:32:00.000-05:00Today on a radio show I heard a commentator descri...Today on a radio show I heard a commentator describing the administration's attitude towards the situation in Afghanistan as "reality is what you think it is, not what the world shows you it is."<BR/><BR/>The small town I live in just elected a mayor who is inclined to say of local situations "I don't think it is a problem." Then poof, it is gone. Or at least not allowed back up for discussion.<BR/><BR/>Judge Jones based his ruling on the kind of logic I can understand, but it is irrelevant to most politicians and, for that matter, most people (religious, believing in ghosts, etc.) in the country. The creationists have learned a lesson, and next time--there will be a next time--they will cover their tracks with greater skill and better lawyers.<BR/><BR/>I'm in the midwest, not in a coastal big city; but there are a lot of people out here. And in general, they believe that "reality is what you think it is, not what the world shows you it is." That makes hunting for a logical place to refute the "cdesign proponentsist" a hike on a scree-filled mountainside.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15005476.post-79574828686776980352007-12-12T23:53:00.000-05:002007-12-12T23:53:00.000-05:00cdesign proponentsistHa, and me thinking Frank had...<B>cdesign proponentsist</B><BR/><BR/>Ha, and me thinking Frank had pretty bad spelling. Priceless indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15005476.post-40138171674217575682007-12-12T18:17:00.000-05:002007-12-12T18:17:00.000-05:00cdesign proponentsistThank you Frank. I've been tr...cdesign proponentsist<BR/><BR/>Thank you Frank. I've been trying to google it all afternoon, and just couldn't get it right.<BR/><BR/>For those who want to know more check out<BR/><A HREF="http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2005/11/missing_link_cd.html" REL="nofollow">Panda's Thumb</A>paul01https://www.blogger.com/profile/06306440944379183875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15005476.post-90724420004798420662007-12-12T17:17:00.000-05:002007-12-12T17:17:00.000-05:00It is clear from this post that you are not a cdes...It is clear from this post that you are <I>not</I> a cdesign proponentsist.<BR/><BR/>Classic. Absolutely classic...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15005476.post-54416241609427766492007-12-12T15:54:00.000-05:002007-12-12T15:54:00.000-05:00thumpalumpacus,yes, I know, even Dembski admitted ...thumpalumpacus,<BR/><BR/>yes, I know, even Dembski admitted the logical possibility that the designer is actually a race of alien beings. But of course we wouldn't have any controversy if all they were proposing was a nebulous version of the panspermia hypothesis...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09099460671669064269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15005476.post-40167241562620510012007-12-12T15:52:00.000-05:002007-12-12T15:52:00.000-05:00Tommy,good luck with Edward! Never met the guy, bu...Tommy,<BR/><BR/>good luck with Edward! Never met the guy, but I read about Shermer's debunking of him. Nasty stuff.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09099460671669064269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15005476.post-92085788510803582312007-12-12T15:51:00.000-05:002007-12-12T15:51:00.000-05:00Hiya Massimo --You are absolutely right in the con...Hiya Massimo --<BR/><BR/>You are absolutely right in the context of American IDers generally, and your cited example specifically, but please note that a deity is not a logical neccessity of ID theory. Many IDers hypothesize aliens as the creative agency.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15005476.post-59336509320475461372007-12-12T12:54:00.000-05:002007-12-12T12:54:00.000-05:00Hi Massimo. OT, as you may know, self-proclaimed ...Hi Massimo. OT, as you may know, self-proclaimed psychic medium John Edward is doing a series of shows this week at the North Fork Theatre in Westbury. I did a post on him last night. Since you are a fellow Long Islander, I would be interested if you had pearls of wisdom to offer on this guy.Tommykeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14751182125861177379noreply@blogger.com